Version 4.0 - Enjoying it?

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From: M Henri Day <mhenriday@gmail.com>
To: Joel Madero <jmadero.dev@gmail.com> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 14:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Version 4.0 - Enjoying it?

Haven't yet had the opportunity to test it extensively, but one thing I
have noticed is that the new suite seems to launch significantly more
quickly than any previous versions (I've been around since OOo 1.1). Kudos
to the developers !...

Henri

I am unhappy that 4.0 doesn't seem to support OSX - saw a note that NONE of the developers have an OSX machine. Tried 4.0 (beta), found many issues (for OSX users) and went back to 3.6

I hope I am wrong, but for now this is my position: disappointed.

John :-#(#

The final version of LO 4.0 works fine on my Mac (OS X Mountain Lion);
PeterS also uses a Mac.

--Jean

Hi John,

Sorry to hear that you've had some problems with the 4.0 release. We
don't have that many developers who work on Macs, but we do support
their work as best we are able. We also have some Mac users active in
Documentation (as Jean pointed out), in QA, and in our other teams.
Would you be willing to help us identify some of those bugs so our
developers could try to fix them for you?

The user support list is probably the best place to get some guidance
on reporting the issues that you're facing:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/

If you have more general questions about how to use certain features
on OSX, please feel free to use the Ask site here:
http://ask.libreoffice.org

You can also take a look at this bug and see if any of the bugs you're
experiencing have already been reported:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42082

Thank you for your assistance in improving LibreOffice for the Mac. We
really appreciate it!

Cheers,
-- Robinson 'qubit' Tryon

Jean Weber wrote:

The final version of LO 4.0 works fine on my Mac (OS X Mountain Lion);
PeterS also uses a Mac.

--Jean

I am unhappy that 4.0 doesn't seem to support OSX - saw a note that NONE of
the developers have an OSX machine. Tried 4.0 (beta), found many issues (for
OSX users) and went back to 3.6

I hope I am wrong, but for now this is my position: disappointed.

John :-#(#

Thanks Jean, when I have some time I'll take a better look. Really busy with other problems right now to do much on LO unfortunately. As I recall though one aspect that was mildly irritating was the lack of info on the Preferences sub-headings on 4.0.0.2. In 3.5.6.2 if you clicked the headers (LibreOffice or Load/Save or Language Settings, etc.) you would get a synopsis of that section. Nothing on the version of 4.0.0.2 that I downloaded.

The other problem I had was in Base, but that may have been my problem, it wouldn't work with the MySQL JDBC driver class, but seems to now - not sure why unfortunately as I don't recall what I did that solved the problem...

John :-#)#

I have been using 4.0 on MacOS X without any major problem, apart from
some minor glitches. I use mostly Writer, Impress and Draw, on a rather
advanced basis, while I am a Calc very basic user.

Hello John

I have been using version 4.0 since the beta developer version on an iMac operating Mac OS 10.7.5 which is the latest version of Lion and an iBook G4 operating Mac OS 10.5. I have had no problems so far with LO 4.0. I cannot use the latest Mac OS which is Mountain Lion because my Mac computers are too old.

Regards

Peter Schofield
psauthor@gmail.com

There are a number of annoying bugs in LO on OSX that make the experience sub-standard for most Mac lovers/aficionados :

- the whole UI look and feel - this is unlikely to change in the near future, unless at least one developer shows up and knows how to recode the interface to look and behave like an OSX app, good luck with interfacing that with the VCL abstraction layer that LO uses - that's the price of multi-OS support, although to be fair to other multi-OS apps, the problem really does lie in the use of the LO Abstract Window Toolkit, which continues to look like it came from the early 80's - using Glade to produce GTK-like UIs is not IMHO the solution to this problem, but I digress ;

- unsigned app - hey, user do you really want to allow just any app on your shiny OSX ? - to be fair, work is currently ongoing to resolve this ;

- drag and drop support, notably of images into Writer ;

- multimedia insertion/playback in Impress support - this has suffered are regression over LO 3.3.x ;

- incomplete copy/paste support - various modules support varying degrees of functional copy/paste or even drag and drop ;

- non-functional AFS share read/write/lock - for companies that use OSX as their server OS and work environment, this is a red light to deployment of LO ;

- accessibility issues and instability in LO when using accessibility tools ;

- inconsistent font rendering and kerning.

Apple users like the quasi-perfection they experience with the basic OS and most apps designed for it. LO does not provide that experience, and is in many respects still light years away from it. Even compared to NeoOffice, LO lacks UI finesse and OS integration.

I say all this as someone who has been using LO on Mac, and prior to that OOo, for nearly 10 years, and having used StarOffice, OOo, and now LO on Linux and occasionally Windows.

Alex