minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC

Hi all,

here are the minutes of the LibreOffice QA call is on 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC.

attending: Markus, Florian, Rainer, Petr, Bjoern

pending action items:
   - Update/Create active triagers wiki page (Cor/Rainer)
   - collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer)
     -> blocked on CC/Litmus choice & availability
   - write update scenario testcase in Litmus/MozTrap (Kendy)
   - bulk change remove EasyHacks in summary, make that white board only (Rainer, Florian, all)
     (actually not possible in bulk, so lets crowdsource this: when you come
     across a bug with "EasyHack" in title, please remove it there
   - Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros
     to better propagate Hackfests, Bug Hunting Sessions etc.
     RedHat, Debian, Gentoo still missing
   - send a proposal for liberal assigned use in NEEDINFO to Rainer for review (Bjoern)
   - create a QA EasyHack "Gather own bugzilla requirements" (Bjoern)
     - create a wikipage with what we have so far and link to it (Rainer)
   - blog about bug verification (Bjoern)
   - bibisect: update docs (Bjoern)

completed action items:
   - MozTrap evaluation install (Bjoern) -> obsolete
   + blog about QA EasyHacks (Cor/Bjoern) -> done by Cor, need repetition of course
   + blog about daily build changes/bugs/features from git log (Cor)
   - add EasyHack for bugzilla-twitter integration (Bjoern)
   - bibisect: also rebuild the old ~50 3.5 bibisect installs for the next update (Bjoern)
     - obsolete, just needs libjpeg62 package installed on precise

structured manual testing:
  - Yifan had good progress setting this up (Petr)
    - account creation still creates some issues
    - still might be ready as soon as next week

bug wrangling (Rainer):
  - bugzilla twitter integration
    - bugzilla git integration might be a blueprint (Markus)
    - EasyHack: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50096
  - assigning policy: really assign or CC? (Petr)
    - CC is better, dev can then self-assign
AA - update bugwrangling docs to say CC instead of assign (Rainer)
  - some confusion about the use of "new components" (Rainer)
    - seems to be a better way to distrubute bugs to devs as teams grow
    - (assigning to one dev isnt that helpful anymore then)
    - likely a good topic for our own bugzilla, not worth it earlier (Bjoern)
AA - bring topic back to ESC (Rainer, Petr, Bjoern)

community building/communication (Cor?)
AA+ add yourself on openhatch.org (all)
    - mark yourself as a mentor for LibreOffice too
  - QA mentoring (Florian)
    - EasyHacks seem to work great in dev, we should get something similar for QA
    - How do we find/identify mentees?
      - twitter integration might get blood in the project, but here we need those
        who did some verifications/confirmations to take them to the next level
      - once we have our own bugzilla we should have a "Wanna meet the QA-team"-link
        to the QA-List in the header/footer
      - QA-List is freedesktop/hasslesome (Florian)
AA+ - Invite active bugwranglers to next call/QA list, CC Rainer (Bjoern)

bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master (Bjoern/Korrawit):
AA - merge 3.5 and 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern)
     - should be done with the next update, likely around 3.6 branchoff
   - having bibisect in a PPA for automatic updates would be nice (Florian)
     - investigate bibisect in a PPA (Bjoern)

The next LibreOffice QA call is on 2012-06-01 14:00 UTC.

As always comments and additions welcome.

Best,

Bjoern

this being MozTrap.

Best,

Bjoern

Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb:

AA+ add yourself on openhatch.org (all)

Hi,

I think it is a good idea to do some networking, offer help and contribution, ask for volunteers. And may be openhatch.org can be a platform for that.

But for all people who have a brain working similar to mine that website is a terrible mess, for me every step was painful, to find where I can do a click announcing that I am interested in LibreOffice was more or less impossible. I clicked "want to help" and now I am listed as "Want to contribute". The projects selector is unsorted, "show all projects" is at a completely different place than "show more projects".

That might mean
a) if Rainer does not understand that we have a good chance that
    everybody else will be happy with openhatch.org
b) we can't recommend that platform for everybody's use

openhatch.org might be a good platform for geeks ("Widgetize yourself" - good grief!), but I believe it's completely useless to bring normal users in contact with LibreOffice contribution.

Best regards

Rainer