Attending: Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus,
Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron,
Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy
* Completed Action Items
+ simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers
+ many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins.
+ issues to look into if we can
+ HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric)
+ now back-ported to 3.6
+ HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction (Michael S)
+ HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus)
+ fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan)
+ fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review)
+ superseded by patch 629 ibid.
+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael)
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ complete but takes 24 hours
+ gerrit add: private/<username>/branches (Norbert)
* Pending Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy)
+ script written, testing it for deployment
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill)
+ 3.6.2 retrospective
+ released
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ accidentally skipped / discuss next week.
+ 3.5.7 retrospective
+ rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression
+ more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release
* 3.6.3 rc1
+ monday deadline for fixes
+ branch on tuesday - then three reviews
+ tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend
+ reconsider schedule on monday
* UI / design update (Astron)
+ unchanged
+ no chat last week
* Saxon split-out (DTardon)
+ xslt export filters (java, saxon based)
+ new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter)
+ for possible backward compat, still ship saxon
+ drop saxon from install
+ don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension
+ where to put the extension ?
+ package on extensions.libro
+ source code outside core repos
+ decision: David to go ahead with this
* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue.
+ topics for an extended agenda appreciated ...
+ your pitch for sanity here 
** PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH **
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference
+ speakers please just enter "No" for have you paid;
that is a valid option.
AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms)
* git submodules / rename (Norbert)
+ code-wise done, features/submodules branch
+ does it work when you go across the migration?
+ testings appreciated!
+ doc writing in progress
+ once doc is done, when to do that?
+ each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that
means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to
manipulate the patch
+ proposed submodule migration at the conference.
* bibisect goodness (Norbert)
+ experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds,
resulting repo is 2.1G -> too big
+ collect only once a day
+ collecting the windows ones too
+ 700M - builds are less frequent
+ an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits
* sysadmin contract / work ...
AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern)
* distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael)
+ want to get our product work into public git
+ all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for all
+ since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise
+ problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per release
+ is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ?
+ normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)
+ only fetch tags for branches you have checked out by default
+ lionel: already >2000 tags, who cares about some more
+ resolution: check this in, tags and all
+ clean legacy tags at end of support life if a problem.
* QA update (Joel)
+ QA meet-up next in Essen report ...
+ FDO font-size issue
+ some gmail users having problems with <pre>tag</pre> sizes
+ really a browser mis-configuration
+ Joel to educate around a fix.
+ help getting people together for triage
+ http://doodle.com/3tfr888ma5cgkww4
* QA / Hard-Hacks
* new wiki page to handle hard-hacks:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
AI: + HH: fdo#51023 impress D&D crasher - (Radek)
+ fdo#37580, fdo#34548 - impress issues, may be some indicees
handling issue creating many related bugs.
* Closed 3.7 MAB: (with thanks to)
+ bug 54744 - Hybrid PDF export are corrupted (Stephan)
+ bug 54225 - MAILMERGE e-mail as PDF sends damaged documents (Stephan)
+ bug 55524 - UI: hang when accessing "Insert -> Manual Break..." (Caolan)
+ bug 55350 - Letter spacing and ‘expand single word’ bust (Sergey Farbotka)
* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
+ bug 55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 44 (of 139) older 46/137 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58
32% 34% 34% 35% 33% 28% 29% 26% 19%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 81 open (of 279) older 82/279 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257 76/256
29% 29% 30% 30% 30% 26% 28% 30%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 179(+2) bugs open of 833(+13) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 81 (+6)
+ Crashes - 18 (-2)
+ Presentation - 17 (+0)
+ LibreOffice - 14 (-1)
+ Borders - 13 (+1)
+ Drawing - 13 (+0)
+ Database - 13 (-1)
+ Migration - 10 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet - 9 (-2)
+ Writer / RTF - 2 (+0)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
-- Thorsten