Present: Jay, Cor, Kendy, Heiko, Stuart, Tomaz
Organization
* News wrt. comments for tickets being assigned and in implementation (esp. easyhacks)
+ do not comment publicly in this state
+ do not comment when needsUXEval has been removed
+ do not use NEEDINFO / use NEEDINFO to identify tickets to be resolved
+ be kind
* Sources of official materials missing
+ take care of it AI => kendy
+ add this to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding
* Design session next week about versioning with Sharepoint integration
+ starting after the hangout at 15:00 CEST (Oct/21)
Tickets
* Always allow spacing to contents even when there is no border set (for frames but also page, paragraph...)
+ tdf#41542 (solved to deal with round-trips/as compatibility feature for doc files; but still disabled)
+ pro: flexibility, con: legacy issue/compatibility/odf spec?
+ good idea (jay)
+ Regina might have had concerns because of inteference with other areas
(e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33041
Allow page background to cover the whole page, not only within page borders) (Cor)
=> make sure that nothing breaks but green otherwise (AI Heiko: talk to Regina)
* Allow toolbars in full-screen mode?
+ e.g. quick find https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95462
+ pro: no limitation for users, con: clear concept without; only the qf-bar has a shortcut
+ full screen mode is for writing, no need to have floating toolbars (Cor, Jay)
+ How about Navigator in a floating toolbar? (Heiko)
+ Not needed (Jay), not today (Cor)
+ Technical limitation perhaps (kendy)
=> No guideline will be defined; basically the mode is to close/hide toolbars and other controls
* Bring back "Clear direct formatting"
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915
+ Pro: most users want it; Con: keep the menus clean; preference for styles
+ better processes needed; user workflow should be the first argument; useful in both (Stuart)
+ it is available at the toolbar, no need for the contex menu (Jay)
+ context menu is informative for beginners (Cor)
+ probably beginners do not know what it means (kendy)
=> bring it back but into submenu (~60% decision)
* Show restart message after extension installation or update menu automatically (cornouws, 20161002):
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46279
+ I've reopened because IMO it sucks..
+ No response from the people, so maybe something we should just live with??
+ It makes sense to not ask for restart when it isn't needed. But whether this is added to the description or
where ever is not a matter of UX I'd say. (Heiko)
=> revert the patch; add to extension spec for option to restart