* Present: Cor, Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Michel, Samuel, Stuart, Tomaž
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Enabled double click in input list field dialog (Oliver)
+ Converted MN_TAB_POPUPMENU to xml (Maxim)
+ Table context menu improvements (Maxim)
+ Clarified advanced options (unstable vs. limited) (Joel)
+ Convert some Calc context menus to xml (Maxim)
+ Filter options dialog controls expandable (Oliver)
+ Convert RID_POPUP_TAB to xml (Maxim)
+ Incremental UI changes only?
+ Joel suggest to not change the whole UI but have small steps
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91820#c25
+ mostly about the menu and toolbar reorg (Kendy)
+ Makes not much sense in this case since there is no half-conceptual menu organization (Heiko)
+ the hope is that the largest changes are now done (Kendy)
+ and we are back to incremental changes (Kendy)
+ should there be more changes, they'll be incremental again (Kendy)
+ pretty large change overall (Stuart)
+ there was support from the Design team (Stuart)
+ the change was needed, and long overdue (Stuart)
+ yes (Kendy)
+ now back to more easily manageable (Stuart)
+ there was a concept behind the changes (Heiko)
+ we are affecting people's workflows... (Heiko)
+ would be good to have 'something' that introduces the new features (Heiko)
+ when doing changes, we should prefer larger (but complete) change (Tomaž)
+ so that people don't have to re-learn all the time (Kendy)
+ agree (Cor)
+ better bundle the changes (per module) as much as reasonable doable
+ for NotebookBar, we'll need a switch between the old and new (Heiko)
+ that's easy - different concept, so a simple switch is possible (Kendy)
+ Save button behavior (Samuel)
+ Samuel talked to Maxim, Maxim agreed (Samuel)
+ only needs the new icon (Samuel)
+ what to do in 5.1 - revert? (Samuel)
+ let's wait a bit if Maxim can provide the proposed solution ~soon (Kendy)
+ and cherry-pick (Kendy)
+ late feature - will need 3 cross-company approvals (Kendy)
+ if not in time for RC2 (January 11), let's revert in 5.1 (Kendy)
+ Mail merge toolbar (Kendy)
+ implementation ongoing (Kendy)
+ have the basic toolbar now, working on moving the functionality to there from the wizard (Kendy)
* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
+ not published yet
* Table styles blog post (Heiko)
+ published, some comments came in (Heiko)
+ nothing controversial, good (Heiko)
+ missing use case for the table style (Michel)
+ scenario / use case - for the persona (Heiko)
+ it is there, but not in a structured / strict way (Heiko)
+ scrum way: have there 'who' and 'why', in one sentence (Heiko)
+ so one can imagine that better
+ fine with that, if it is short (Kendy)
+ want to focus on the resulting work, not paperwork around 
(Kendy)
* Mockups with Draw? (Michel/Heiko)
+ drafted a blog-post how it could work (Heiko)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MrSd7nwm3PJfKg_DQ79Sbc4jlqWeX280U_yF81pvQiQ/edit?ts=5672a18b
+ and what's missing in Draw (Heiko)
+ should we blog it, or keep internal only so far? (Heiko)
+ reinventing existing stuff a bit (Stuart)
+ if somebody wants to do the work, go for that of course (Stuart)
+ but people are happy with the tools
+ agree with Stuart (Cor)
+ blog post focusing on strengths of Draw would be good (Cor)
+ but not as a tool to create workflows (Cor)
+ some features are missing, some need adjustments (Heiko)
+ and could be useful in Draw (Heiko)
+ but should not be a replacement for people's tools (Heiko)
+ wanted to propose only a small step (Michel)
+ people should be using tools that fit them, no forcing of this or that (Kendy)
+ we can do recommendations, but that's only it (Kendy)
+ important to manage expectations (Cor)
+ shapes tab in the sidebar - that could get us closer (Jay)
+ down to stencils / objects
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sv3Q-XdnHElYGXX2m8OLbRAy1zyodcU231Gn2SkVRV0/edit?usp=sharing
+ have a feeling of feature creep (Kendy)
+ let's stay what we are - a general purpose drawing program, not specialized on UI design (Kendy)
* Draw problems (Stuart)
+ not that good in vector drawing - freehand/Illustrator/Krita (Stuart)
+ problem with beziers (as in hand lettering/cursive lettering)
+ svg's should be handled correctly
+ please file bugs (Kendy)
+ Draw does not have too exactly defined use (Tomaž)
+ "does many things, but some of them not too well" (Stuart)
+ might be interesting to have a survey about what the users actually use Draw for (Tomaž)
* Bug discussions
+ discussed, and acted on:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67860
+ Windows high contrast - http://www.picpaste.com/high_contrast-Q8rI1tg0.PNG (sidebar icons missing)
+ different bug, please file a separate bugreport (Kendy)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86341
