* Present: Heiko, Kendy, Michel, Samuel, Stuart, Tomaž
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Controller to show toolbar content as menu (Maxim)
+ Edit points toolbar (Jay)
+ Save Remote only when available (Maxim)
+ Transition icons for Impress (Andreas)
* Suggestions from Roland (Samuel)
+ http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libre-office-vs-numbers-td4167428.html
+ mostly general ideas (Samuel)
+ might be good to point Roland to the .ui files, so that he can do improvements etc. (Kendy)
+ will mail him & point to the calc sidebar .ui files, so that he can play with that (Samuel)
* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
+ not published yet
+ draft finished, but Jay not that happy with the content (Heiko)
+ what to do to unblock?
+ we should share it at least in the current state, to get feedback, and be able to iterate (Heiko)
+ unfortunately cannot see Jay recently (Kendy)
+ let's wait with the Area Tab blog post for now, Jay had some concerns (Kendy)
+ let's publish the Table Style blog post now instead (Kendy)
* Evaluation of what the users need (Michel)
+ what use cases are we targeting (Michel)
+ we have personas in the HIG (Kendy)
+ would be good to prototype + test (Michel)
+ prefer doing the LibreOffice code directly - so that it is exactly what can be done (Kendy)
+ but if you know of a tool that can do it more easily, please do tell us (Kendy)
+ in the case of the Area Tab, it is only about re-arranging the existing dialog (Heiko)
+ not necessary to have user stories there, but useful for new designs (Heiko)
+ interesting to have user stories even when re-designing (Michel)
* Bug discussions
+ discussed, and acted on:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84953
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85383
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81519
* NotebookBar (ToolSpace?) (Samuel)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pt1Psa4YDVwFOdYlLl6TXaK5LIK2uf1RKJk1UOTLsWg
+ current focus: loading the toolbars from glade (.ui) instead of .xcu files
+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
+ mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
+ eg. grouping
+ possible with Notebookbar
+ eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?
+ Will have a friday session on NotebookBar topic on Fr 04th of Dec
+ Please have a look at the following links until then: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar#Resources
+ the patch was reverted in master, will re-introduce that (Kendy)
+ considering a rename to 'ToolSpace' when at that; let's see (Kendy)
+ current plan: do more technical ground work there, so that the rest is up to
concrete design of .ui files via glade (Kendy)
+ then many paths are possible, eg:
+ https://smehrbrodt.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/improving-the-toolbars-in-libreoffice/
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
+ but we want this to be an "implementation detail" - whatever is in .ui files (Kendy)
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
+ Andreas provided the icons for transitions
+ many thanks! (Kendy)
+ Paulo proposed new mimetype icons (Heiko)
+ nice stuff (Stuart)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/7d/Pj-icons-2015-11-6-v2-default-dark.png
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/eb/Pj-icons-2015-11-6-v2-high-contrast-dark.png
+ looks good, positive feedback on the ML (Kendy)
+ could have a better contrast for the Draw icon (Heiko)
+ up to Andreas + Jay to merge if it fits their plan (Kendy)