* Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Ken, Kendy
+ welcome Ken! - from the KDE design community
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget
+ Jay: Send a mail to documentation@global.libreoffice.org with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
+ Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
+ Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
+ Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
+ Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
+ Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
+ Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
+ the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
+ Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
+ check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
+ Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets (Jay)
+ Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is, more complete
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Rearrange Chart toolbars
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90492
+ .ui updates (Bubli, Clément)
+ improved page numbering in Calc and Draw/Impress (Dobra Gabor)
+ new Breeze icons (Andreas)
+ Sifr updates (Matthias)
+ show only extensions we are able to insert (Bubli)
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
+ should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko)
+ would be good to have Friday session about this (Heiko)
+ so that we can have the functional & visual parts there (Heiko)
+ generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation
that more detailed documents get (Ken)
* Icon Updates / Issues
+ Shouldn't the icons in the Start Center always be the TDF/LibreOffice official "Branding" icons
regardless of the icon theme? (Pedro)
AI + best to agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos (Kendy)
+ Tango (Alex/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
+ pushed new icons for Calc (Jay)
+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
+ Papamatti pushed some new icons (Jay)
+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
+ Andreas pushed more icons (Jay)
+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
+ Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
* How best to provide kendy with a list of needDevEval (Jay)
+ Should I include it in the UI/UX priorty list google doc? (Jay)
+ sounds good (Kendy)
+ will bring it to the ESC to find more interested people who can provide code pointers (Kendy)
+ ~10 is enough for now
* Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
+ Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
+ it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it.
+ need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.
+ visual design (color scheme, icons)
+ StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--)
+ placment or size of thumbnail views/template views
etc.
+ already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs
+ needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Color_Table
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements
+ reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay)
+ now to spread the word more
AI + sync with marketing (Kendy)
* Shapes Sidebar (Heiko/Jay)
+ Blog posted - http://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-design-session-shapes/
+ additional reaction under the blogpost
+ don't forget the connector shapes
+ another +1's for accordion
+ topic closed
* Insert Chart (Heiko/Jay)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z1IBeqKnscoODgFDNm81iDnwkzxce92sEsYuMggnTDQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ somebody asked why a dialog when we have a sidebar?
+ could be that click in the toolbar just adds the chart that would be tweaked in sidebar
+ but the dialog is needed because of data in Writer
+ blogpost pending, will be out tomorrow
+ should we present both 2 proposals, or agree on one only?
+ problem that these use a different approaches to the UX (Heiko)
+ the main thing (for me) is to attract a developer who'd like to implement that, so
presenting both works for me (Kendy)
+ conclusion: yes
* Next Friday's design session (Jay)
+ 12pm UTC
+ Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed
+ List of possible future topics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
+ Topic: Style guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
+ general view would be good (Kendy)
+ like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide
ourselves (Kendy)
* UX advise bugs in bugzilla (Stuart) (336 [-2] bugs in ux-advice today)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=ux-advise&list_id=527515&query_format=advanced&resolution=---
+ everyone please feel empowered to look at that + act: reject, implement, decide, or bring to
the meeting or mailing list if controversial
+ please be kind when closing requests, usually people have spent quite some energy filing that
* Sidebar open in Draw by default (Jay)
+ need the same thing as in Impress (Jay)
+ 5 minutes hack, please poke me on the IRC tomorrow (Kendy)