minutes of Hackfest TNG call, 2017-09-17 14:30UTC

Hi,

tl;dr:

Preliminary plan is to go for a "testdrive" LibreOffice TNG Hackfest on:

- December 9th/10th 2017
- in Hamburg

with a follow-up in spring after FOSDEM -- likely in Italy.

more notes on the topics discussed during the Hackfest TNG call today (not
exactly in chronological order):

- attendance: Eike, Florian, Marina, Osvaldo, Bjoern

- topics to discuss (Bjoern):
  - Where? What? When? Who?

- What topics to set for the Hackfest?

  - OSX Updater <- suggestion on the Wiki
    - very specific (Bjoern)
    - Moggi expertise (Eike)

  - UI/UX topics maybe, easier to get started (Bjoern)
    - but also bikesheds
    - and translation relevant
      - unlikely to be much of an issue compared to all the other changes we do
        (Eike)

  - moving Draw towards DTP (Marina)
    - was discussed on telegram and elsewhere recently
    - multipage textflows etc.
    - likely much to broadly scoped for a Hackfest (Bjoern)

  - GSOC ideas:
    - GSOC ideas to large -- they are already scoped for at leat a few months
      of contribution (Eike)

  - "Interesting EasyHack":
    - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/EasyHacks/lists/by_Difficulty#More_Interesting_Easy_Hacks
    - probably bestfitting scopewise for a start (Eike, Bjoern)
AI: - Preselect a set of topics from the list (Eike, Bjoern)

- When to have the Hackfest? (Bjoern)

  - Not before the conference, at least a few weeks of separation from the
    conference to not be overlooked => no earlier than late November
  - late November is branch off, consultants might be time-constrained due to
    other duties
    - by calendar week 50, those commitments should have reasonably cooled off
      (Eike)
    - later is already too close to Christmas (Eike)
    => thus best date is likelt DECEMBER 9TH and 10TH
  - should be fixed at the conference
  - tight schedule, lets do this event as a "testdrive"
  - follow-up Hackfest after FOSDEM, so:
    - earliest mid-March
    - possibly in connection with DFD (Marina)
    - Month of LibreOffice contribution in May again (Osvaldo, Bjoern)
  - "Just" November/December and April/May Hackfests would limit us to two per
    year, maybe we can try to do more again like we e.g. did around 2014 (Bjoern)

- Where to have the Hackfest? (Bjoern)

  - three european local communities showed interest in hosting this: France,
    Italy and Germany (Bjoern)
  - possible locations in Italy:
    - Perugia (Osvaldo)
      - remembering travel time was a bit of a obstacle last time (Bjoern)
      - travel time not too bad: 2/3h from Rome (Eike)
      - not possible in November/December (Osvaldo)
      - still a candidate for ~May (Osvaldo)
    - Milan (Marina)
      - easy to reach (3 airports available)
      - city holiday and national holiday on December 7th and 8th => not
        possible on 9th/10th
      - still a candidate for spring
  - possible locations in Germany:
    - Hamburg (Bjoern)
      - lots of LibreOffice hacker on the ground
      - multiple candidates for a venue
      - not too nice weatherwise in December (Eike)
        - "hacking with Gluehwein" :confused: (Bjoern)
    - Berlin or Essen also possible (Florian)
  => going for Hamburg, most resources on the ground on this short notice
  - Italy shortlisted for follow-up Hackfest in ~spring

- Who will attend? Who will do pairprogramming?

AI: - Scout for people willing to learn about LibreOffice code by
      pairprogramming esp. in the German community (Eike, Bjoern, Florian)
    - Of course, interested members of ALL international communities are invited
    - travel and accomodation will be provided as usual

- Next call:
  - until further notice assume same place, same time in 14 days
  - thus 2017-10-01 14:30UTC/16:30 Berlin time

- call closed at 2017-09-17 15:30 UTC.

@Marina, Osvaldo, Eike, Florian: My notetaking is not the best -- please
correct me or add comments when I made errors or omissions.

Best,

Bjoern

Happy to support this. Topics, input, support granted :slight_smile:

Although the HackFest should be focused on development, I think that we
could add a non development related task - for instance, in December we
could focus on the upcoming announcement to start drafting documents -
to increase participation from community members.

Of course, this should not be seen as an "everyone is welcome" message,
but I think it could be important for people who are not skilled devs
but are willing to contribute to the community building side of the
HackFest.

Hi,

  - moving Draw towards DTP (Marina)
    - was discussed on telegram and elsewhere recently
    - multipage textflows etc.
    - likely much to broadly scoped for a Hackfest (Bjoern)

Uh huh. Do we really need to compete with Scribus? Especially given that
we have almost no chance to match it?

D.

The Draw/DTP use case was expressed in the survey [1] but not on top of the
list. Meta ticket [2] contains issues and requests around this topic.

[1]
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/04/01/the-many-faced-god-part-2-how-libreoffice-draw-is-expected-to-evolve/
[2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99525