minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
  + hangout: Bjoern, Kendy, Markus, Petr, Thorsten, Tshai
  + phone: Ahmad, Tibby, Caolan, Joel, David, Stahl, Kohei,
           Lionel, Cedric

* Completed Action items:
  + 4.1 issues
    + merge match-case search to 4.1 (Michael)
    + superscript bug fixed (thanks to Khalad)
  + buy fast Windows build hardware (Markus, Thorsten)
    [ Kendy has Prague one ordered ]
    [ PyCom will deliver 2x German ones, next week
      big 1kg - 16cm heatsink into the box, Norbert's
      plan was to overclock the machine like crazy ]
  + add KACST guys to Hamburg Hackfest wiki (Ahmad)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2013
  + send gmail contact details to Michael to build a circle (All interested)
  + send areas for QA to test in 4.1 (All)
    + calc - basic operations / performance of big operations
    + python wizard porting (File->Wizards)
    + otherwise devs to mail the list individually

* Pending Action items:
  + feedback on stepped-lines dialog (Astron)
  + revive writer default templates discussion - pwrt. incremental change (Ahmad)
    [ pending ]
  + 4.1 issues:
    + fix gallery building on Mac (Michael?)
  + get the gerrit / mail digest bits setup (Bjoern)
    [ stalled ]
  + kill calc / inherited number formatting for 4.1 (Markus)
    [ branch is ready for merge - do we want it as a
      late-feature / bug-fix in 4.1 ? ]
AI: + review it, and if Kohei approves -> goes in past feature freeze (Kohei)

* cached-value import issue (Markus)
  + If you shipped 4.0.2 as a distro you need to patch this out
    + the fix in 4.0.3 won't work if you had 4.0.2 installed
      beforehand.
    + we have 40x dups of this bug report already
AI: + send #ifdef it out patch to Bjoern (Markus)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline: June 24th for rc1
  + 4.0.4 rc1 status
    + thanks for fixes - lots of them included
    + tag & builds are available, mirror push pending today
    + dealine for RC2 is two weeks from now.
  + 4.1 Beta1 retrospective
    + Monday - deadline for 4.1 beta2.
      + please try to work on critical fixes before then.
  + 4.1 pending / watch features / issues
    + wiki page needs updating with features:
      + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
  + 4.2 - created feature page:
    + new bits on master go there:
    + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2
AI: + extend the release plan to 4.3, 4.4 ? (Petr)

* QA update (Joel)
  + started the needinfo project:
    + warning people that we're going to close their bugs
    + 336 bugs done, and of these
      + 34 closed (mostly by the user)
      + 19 marked as new - info provided + confirmed
      + 17 - users provided the information
      + rest are still NEEDINFO
    + lots of people have apparently forgotten their bugs
  + sent a bug highlight: popular, 5 dups
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57738
  + a few of contributors have more time recently
    + Joren doing incredible bibisect work [ thanks ! ]
    + if you don't need a bibisect for your bug:
      + please remove bibisect_request to save time.
  + call tomorrow
  + Need_Advice bugs input appreciated
    + 9 bugs in that state
    + http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    + +175 -178

* Looking for invisible features in 4.1
  + eg. gnumake migration finished
  + significant .ui file migration
  + Stephan's new type representation work
  + string cleanup: a few more methods gone from UniString
  + libmerged work - a single library now in common deployment
  + Lubos' mass-removal of CONST_USTRING foo ...
  + tools/ file-system abstraction gone
  + Markus Mohrhard's crasher-fixes
  + coverity work
  + very significant calc core re-factoring / re-work
  + component / service conversions
  + coretext on Mac
  + programmatic access to the database value behind BoundListBox ...
  + more bibisecting
    + box in Canonical QA labs -> a bibisect repo.
  + limit clause in SQL query ...
    + to get the first <N> results.
  + (ns) precision on database foo ...
  + wizard re-work to Python
  + other input much appreciated - just mail me ...

* Hamburg hack-fest (Thorsten)
  + Reminder to book travel
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2013
    + we (still) have TDF travel budget $1k to spend
      + approved Caolan, Michael, Thorsten

* GSOC update (Cedric)
  + Thirteen students with us:
    + data extraction: phone numbers from most students, to
      help poke in extremis.
    + response rate pretty good
    + coding can start now, though official start is June 27th
  + some great projects for 4.2
    http://fridrich.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/libreoffice-google-summer-of-code-2013.html

* UX input (Astron)

* Better communication / hangouts / webcams (Michael)
  + works - audio much better (Bjoern)
  + send gmail details to Michael if you want to get added
AI: + add Joren & Kohei to ESC / circles (Michael)

* Doxygen branch (Michael S)
  + merge it into 4.1 - or delay until 4.2 ?
  + converts the IDL docs & comments in there to what doxygen expects
  + requires the very latest doxygen release
    + now about a week old.
  + either on system, or disable documentation ?
    + we do have internal doxygen for windows / mac already (Thorsten)
  + is it required - without it it doesn't work (Kendy)
    + comments in IDL files, have to be either autodoc understands,
      or doxygen understands; or result will look awful. (Michael S)
    + how bad is it with an older doxygen ? (Kendy)
      + IDL docs would be completely missing (Michael S)
  + which Linux Distro builds the docs ? (Thorsten)
  + why is it worthwhile to have it on 4.1 (Stephan)
    + get rid of autodoc earlier - just do it on master.
  + problems maintaining the branch - service conversions going on etc.
  + merge to master, and so can fix the build machines so we have
    the right doxygen on them
AI: + add a doxygen version check to configure (Michael S)

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
  + discussion about certified developer logo, do we have one ? (Stephan)
    + asked on the list; hopes the design team can make that.
AI: + give Stephan rights to update the wiki page (Thorsten)
  + need to send certificates out.

* Committers doing more reviews on gerrit (Bjoern)
  + added a welcome message / confirmation - encouraging people to
    remember what it's like not having direct commit access, and so to
    review other people's code changes to OTRS.

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 3 (of 26) older 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 3/14 2/13 2/11
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 16 (of 129) older 16/128 18/129 17/126 18/125 24/122 22/118 19/115
             12% 13% 14% 13% 14% 20% 19% 17%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 67 (of 232) older 69/231 71/229 72/228 75/226 75/225 75/225 75/223
             29% 30% 31% 32% 33% 33% 34% 33%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
        + 41 (of 112) older 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88 26/85 24/83 27/83
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
  + 302(-2) bugs open of 1578(+25) total

  * ~Component count net *
          Writer - 107 (+7)
    Presentation - 30 (+2)
     Spreadsheet - 26 (-8)
     Libreoffice - 25 (-2)
         Crashes - 25 (+3)
        Database - 21 (+0)
         Drawing - 19 (-1)
         Borders - 14 (+0)
       Migration - 4 (+1)
           BASIC - 3 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

Hi,

* Doxygen branch (Michael S)
  + which Linux Distro builds the docs ? (Thorsten)

Fedora / RHEL, for example.

D.