* Present:
+ Miklos, Andras, Caolan, David, kendy, Kohei, Eike, Markus, Stephan,
Tibby, Robinson, Cloph, Bjoern, Michael M, Michael S
* Completed Action Items
+ CC developers' mailing list on all the easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ poke marketing / PR for 4.1.2 announce (Cloph)
+ change wiki page to eliminate proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ create a script that counts bug commenters stats for minor release update PR (Bjoern)
+ switch to 10.8 baseline for Mac / 64bit (Norbert)
+ ask Rob to turn auto-'regression' status off on the BSA (Robinson)
[ bug filed ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ find better way to export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs (Caolan)
+ design-team raising template concerns, address these if possible & push (Ahmad)
+ setup infrastructure to build bibisect repos (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
+ propose different name for proposed easy hacks (Markus)
+ produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
+ transition and automate this inside a VM for Cloph (Lionel)
+ create script to auto-mail users list for each API Change commit (Bjoern/Stephan)
+ ask Florian for a minimal / simple solution for larger bug docs (Robinson)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.2 retrospective
+ wider RC3 / delay announcement
+ will activate automatic update today.
+ 4.0.6 RC1 status
+ pushed to the mirrors, ready to be announced later today
+ 4.1.3 RC1 - status
+ on the way to the mirrors
+ 4.0.6 RC2 deadline - next Monday
+ 4.1.3 RC2 - deadline week after
+ can we include the new bug-triager credits script for minor updaes ? (Bjoern)
+ a script that generates data on who commented in the related bugs
AI: + point Cloph at script in dev-tools (Bjoern)
+ GSOC / Android & iOS remote releases ?
+ previously pushed every update to the release branch (Miklos)
+ so ok to release from master ?
AI: + get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
AI: + ask app-authors wrt. freeze (Kendy)
* obsolete git branch cleanup (Thorsten)
+ git push origin --delete <branchName>
AI: + mail out list of branches (Michael)
* New Google C* font replacements (Caolan)
+ http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/186967
+ Carlito → Calibri
+ Caladea → Cambria
+ packaging them for Fedora → into LibreOffice.
* Regression analysis (Bjoern)
+ good news, fixing more regressions than we're introducing
+ the stats are going up, but thought to be better QA / triage.
+ because marking more:
+ ~50% of bugs closed in a major release, marked as regressions
+ conclusion:
+ doing a reasonable job of keeping regressions under control since 3.6
+ continued focus on unit-testing important.
+ could / focus on areas where we detected most regressions.
+ hope is that fixes come with unit tests so we do focus there (Michael)
+ would be good to scrape bugzilla for 'regression' that were fixed
+ identify code in commit & find most regression-prone code.
AI: + create easy-hack to indentify the above (Bjoern)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66750 done
+ way too few unit-tests for impress (Kendy)
+ contrast with the weekly stats which seem to climb endlessly (Michael M)
+ around 100 of our 'regressions' - needinfo or unconfirmed (Bjoern)
+ could we review / de-tagging these ?
AI: + QA team can prioritise that (Robinson)
+ Link that has regressions introduced in recent minor releases (Michael S)
http://bit.ly/18RVbgp
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.1.1%20rc&version=4.0.1.2%20release&version=4.0.2.1%20rc&version=4.0.2.2%20release&version=4.0.3.1%20rc&version=4.0.3.2%20rc&version=4.0.3.3%20release&version=4.0.4.1%20rc&version=4.0.4.2%20release&version=4.0.5.1%20rc&version=4.0.5.2%20release&product=LibreOffice&list_id=353044
+ be good to look into these specifically
* Bundled extensions (Stephan)
+ one left - presentation minimizer
+ de-extensionalizing by David O planned
+ one instdir/ issue - bundled extensions don't show up
+ lots of --enable-ext-whatever foo in configure, that bundle extn's
we hardly ever build, if we get rid of them, we avoid needing to fix
instdir to not include them.
+ distro-configs for TDF builds, include wikipublisher, nlpsolver
+ do we want to have those ?
+ we need the nlpsolver (Kohei)
+ is it built locally - or is it a tarball (Stephan)
+ external pkg, but built locally (Kohei)
+ thought there was an UNO wrapper for it.
+ could we add it to the list of things to de-extensionalise ? (Stephan)
+ we need it.
+ could we just advertise that instdir doesn't work for some esoteric
bundled extensions ? (Michael)
+ will want installsets from instdir/ eventually anyway (Stephan)
+ need to take care of them first
+ disable wikipublisher for now ? (Stephan)
+ problems around packaging it if it's outside (Bjoern)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+168 -130 (+38 overall)
many thanks to the top seven bug squashers:
Samuel M. 16
Joel Madero 8
Cor Nouws 8
Urmas 7
Jorendc 6
ign_christian 6
Thomas Arnhold 6
+ bug count increasing.
+ build-bots are down, not seeing daily builds (Robinson)
+ problems building master on release config - should be solved this week. (Cloph)
+ planned, windows & linux bibisect repos - what is the timeline ? (Robinson)
+ few weeks to a month out (Cloph)
+ Canonical bibisect repo is updated - since October 4th (Bjoern)
+ also started personal build of that, we have 2x of these running & updating
+ pleased by daily builds of android remote.
+ what daily builds do we consider to be important infrastructure ?
+ New Mac hardware on-order, and Cloph setting up.
+ should have dailys back soon.
+ proposed bugzilla migration, needs co-ordination with Tollef
+ what's the status / communication going on ?
+ Thorsten was poking him (Bjoern)
+ status is: it is possible, but not started yet …
+ need to setup board / funding for it
+ want to plan it for late Q1 2014
+ when last discussed - Tollef mentioned having time in November
AI: + draw the threads together & propose funding to the board (Robinson)
* Development page cleanup (Bjoern)
+ call for action: cleanup your old wiki pages !
+ try killing ooo-build wrapper mentions etc.
+ all dev pages with > 1000 hits:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Bjoern-michaelsen/DevPagesCleanup-2013-10
+ hope is by leading here we can encourage others to clean up their mess too.
* QA stats:
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 6/13 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6 5/6 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 18/100 17/99 15/96 14/93 12/91 14/91 17/89 15/85 15/81 13/77 8/68
18% 17% 16% 15% 13% 15% 19% 18% 19% 17% 12%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 56/198 58/198 56/195 54/193 55/194 52/183 50/180 52/180 44/171
29% 29% 29% 28% 29% 28% 28% 29% 26%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 36/144 35/143 34/142 34/141 34/140 35/140 36/167 37/137 41/137 33/128 33/125 34/124
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 384(+3) bugs open of 2070(+20) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 110 (+3)
Spreadsheet - 54 (+1)
Libreoffice - 47 (+1)
Presentation - 35 (+3)
Crashes - 29 (+1)
Database - 22 (-1)
Borders - 17 (+0)
Drawing - 17 (+0)
BASIC - 4 (+0)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
Hi,
* Bundled extensions (Stephan)
So, some extra thoughts / suggestions for that:
There are two categories of extensions:
1. "Internal" extensions. These are built from sources and include
presentation-minimizer, nlpsolver, wiki-publisher and
mysql-connector-ooo. I think it should be easy to add a
GeneratedPackage into the Extension gbuild class that copies the
extension root dir from workdir to the right place in instdir. (The
.oxt file will still be produced and copied to solver, but I do not
think this is worth any more effort. Much better way to spend one's
time would be to convert these extensions to optional components.)
I will look into this tomorrow.
2. "External" extensions. These are merely copied to solver from
$TARBALL_LOCATION (in extras/Package_extensions.mk). It would be very
easy to unpack them and copy them to instdir instead (i.e., what is
needed is to create an UnpackedTarball and ExternalPackage for every
one of them and change ARCHIVE for FILELIST in scp2). There is 14 of
these extensions in extras, plus ct2n which is already repacked
during build. If this is agreed upon, I suggest to move the makefiles
to a new module, e.g., extensions, as extras is cluttered enough
already.
This would be very suitable for an easy hack.
D.
Hi,
Hi,
> * Bundled extensions (Stephan)
So, some extra thoughts / suggestions for that:
There are two categories of extensions:
1. "Internal" extensions. These are built from sources and include
presentation-minimizer, nlpsolver, wiki-publisher and
mysql-connector-ooo. I think it should be easy to add a
GeneratedPackage into the Extension gbuild class that copies the
extension root dir from workdir to the right place in instdir.
This has been done.
D.
Hi,
Hi,
> * Bundled extensions (Stephan)
2. "External" extensions. These are merely copied to solver from
$TARBALL_LOCATION (in extras/Package_extensions.mk). It would be very
easy to unpack them and copy them to instdir instead (i.e., what is
needed is to create an UnpackedTarball and ExternalPackage for every
one of them and change ARCHIVE for FILELIST in scp2). There is 14 of
these extensions in extras, plus ct2n which is already repacked
during build. If this is agreed upon, I suggest to move the makefiles
to a new module, e.g., extensions, as extras is cluttered enough
already.This would be very suitable for an easy hack.
Since there were no reactions to this at all, I am going to propose
unpacking these extensions to instdir as an easy hack. The makefiles
are going to be in external/extensions.
D.
since the last file in solver was one of these extensions i've
implemented that now.
although since there's already "extensions" module (which doesn't
contain any actual extensions of course) it's in external/misc_extensions.