minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
  + Hangout: Kendy, Adam, Joel, Michael M, Thorsten, Bjoern, Kohei, Caolan
  + Phone: Lionel, Eike, David, Astron, Norbert, Tibby, Christian

* Completed Action items:
  + sort out the OTRS queue (Bjoern, Floeff)
  + write a short Hamburg Hackfest blog entry with photos (Eike)
  + setup a UX Advice bz component and default CC the ux-advise ML (Joel)
    [ which caused some BSA issues ]
  + get windows build-bot setup (Moggi)
  + tweak text on the pre-release page (Cloph)
    + website banner done too & on the BSA.

* Pending Action items:
  + get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
  + update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel)
    [ still working on it - need to solve anothre fdo issue first ]
  + get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten)
    [ Thorsten not got access to it just now ]

* gerrit cross-platform build-bot awesomeness (Norbert)
  + plan is to setup new Windows boxes, and ship them to a kind
    partner in France
  + Kendy struggling with SMTP under Windows for tinderboxes
    + but for gerrit it's all ssh -> setup
  + we start to need an asset list (Thorsten)
    + a git repo / wiki page

* Christian working for TDF part time
  + now working for the infrastructure team
  + here & there on releng / download page

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
  + Petr missed & on holiday for another weeks
  + next monday - branch for 4.1.0 rc2
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline:
    + rc1 is built & pushed to mirrors - announced just now.
    + July 8th is the deadline for rc2

* QA update (Joel)
  + QA Contest update
    + very focused on this.
    + overall number of bugs dropped by 210 or so.
      + at least 350 bugs triaged in the last 8 days
      + goal is still 25% but already at 20%
  + Need_Advice bugs input appreciated (more of them now)
    + 10 bugs in that state
    + http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
  + Encouraging people to put their names in the wiki:
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Projects/Bug_Triage_Contest
  + French / translated BSA is completed
    + awaiting feedback on testing etc.
    + bugs -> mailing list -> English -> bugzilla
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +162 -218 (-56)
    many thanks to top ten:
      Jeol Madero: 29
      ign_christian: 26
      bfoman: 14
      James: 13
      Michael Stahl: 11
      Caolán McNamara: 8
      Igor Gnatenko: 7
      Jorendc: 6
      Lionel Elie Mamane: 5
      Ken Biondi: 5
  + triaging chart looking good:
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED

* GSOC update (Cedric)
  + please mentor your students, mid-term evaluations
    from Mon 29th July until end of that week.

* Easy Hack maintenance (Bjoern)
  + please look at your easy hacks & maintain / close them
  + particularly confirming them (shouldn't have NEEDINFO)
  + on the other hand, we're getting through them:
    + https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/KdvvR2npuBq

* UX input (Astron)
  + not much new to say
  + some discussion about toolbars / dialogs ongoing
  + ux-advise component - not yet used, but we should publicise it:

** Please create UX advise tickets in bugzilla **
  + vs. the component 'UX-Advice'
  + this gets to the mailing list & helps tracking

* 4.1 issues
  + a number of new MABs since filed
  + concern around 4.1 base regressions (Lionel)
    + working through them steadily and hopefully

* Version explanation - do we have that (Joel)
  + do we have a wiki that explains versions etc. ?
  + we have: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ (Michael)
  + and: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOReleaseLifecycle.png (Bjoern)
  + and: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/13/announcing-a-new-beta-release/ (Cloph)
  + boils down to explaining time based releases (Norbert)
  + time is of the essence, but you don't have to try them all (Bjoern)

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)

* Resolved verified - how does that work (Adam)
  + QA interested in moving resolved fixed -> closed once
    there is an official release with that fix in (Bjoern)
    + gives some bug spam but generates interest
    + no opposition
  + could pace it out like the needinfo (Joel)
    + next week is the close->invalid date for stale needinfos
    + guess around 30% re-investigated, 70% closed -> invalid

* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 0/0
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 2 (of 42) older 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 3/14 2/13
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 12 (of 133) older 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129 17/126 18/125
             9% 9% 12% 11% 13% 14% 13% 14% 20%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 57 (of 238) older 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229 72/228 75/226
             24% 27% 28% 29% 30% 31% 32% 33% 33%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 38 (of 119) older 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
  + 297(-2) bugs open of 1670(+29) total

  * ~Component count net *
          Writer - 99 (-1)
    Presentation - 29 (+0)
         Crashes - 26 (+0)
     Libreoffice - 26 (+2)
        Database - 24 (+1)
     Spreadsheet - 24 (+0)
         Drawing - 20 (-1)
         Borders - 14 (+0)
       Migration - 3 (+0)
           BASIC - 2 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1