Whether technical moderation of this list is needed

[thb]

Dear list,

it seems a number of appeals to get the discussion on this list to
become friendly and constructive again have failed.

Over the time, me and others have tried (in public and in private) to
nudge people to be considerate, and also to moderate discussions (in
the sense of balancing positions - if anyone's interested in my
private suggestions, there's no problem to share them. Though they're
quite boring references to the communication best practices).

I find the most recent escalation unbearable, and don't want to be
exposed to that sort of language, even less so in public. Others have
expressed similar sentiment.

Additionally the board has their hands full with tasks working for the
future of TDF. It would be great, if in our volunteer time, we would
be able to concentrate on positive topics.

The only practically effective solution I currently see, for that
problem, is to put this list on moderation. We all share a collective
duty to keep TDF & LibreOffice a friendly and fun place.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

[PaoloVecchi]

Hi all,

my short answer is: no.

Dear list,

it seems a number of appeals to get the discussion on this list to
become friendly and constructive again have failed.

Over the time, me and others have tried (in public and in private) to
nudge people to be considerate, and also to moderate discussions (in
the sense of balancing positions - if anyone's interested in my
private suggestions, there's no problem to share them. Though they're
quite boring references to the communication best practices).

I find the most recent escalation unbearable, and don't want to be
exposed to that sort of language, even less so in public. Others have
expressed similar sentiment.

Additionally the board has their hands full with tasks working for the
future of TDF. It would be great, if in our volunteer time, we would
be able to concentrate on positive topics.

The only practically effective solution I currently see, for that
problem, is to put this list on moderation. We all share a collective
duty to keep TDF & LibreOffice a friendly and fun place.

Longer answer:

True that some used some colourful language, they will be told to avoid that, but that doesn't really happen that often.

Others are open exchanges of point of views and often useful information that should be taken in consideration when developing policies and decisions.

People have different way of communicating which can be seen sometimes as "passive-aggressive" if sentences are not understood in their context and with a bit of background information.

Following long discussions might be a bit of a pain but one can take informed decisions only if has a wider understanding of the issues.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

Ciao

Paolo

[cornouws]

I consider it a wise decision. Let's discuss it (first) in the board.

Cor

[thb]

Dear list,

there was a lot of support in the board to at least temporarily switch
this list to moderation.

As such, every email to this list will npw be moderated - we'd like
everyone to please aspire to our communication guidelines, and in any
case comply with our Code of Conduct.

This is not a desirable place to be in, and we'll try hard to calm
emotions down over the near future - and then hopefully be back to
something friendly, welcoming and fun (without the need for
technical moderation).

Thanks a lot for your understanding,

-- Thorsten