[us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

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#21

> Hi Drew, *,
>
> > drew schrieb:
> >
> > [..]
> >
> >> I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
> >> ~32Megs would fail. [1]
> >
> > Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
>
> (this is imposed by php's settings -

> silverstripe itself doesn't
> really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
> ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
> scp/rsync

OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.

<snip>

>
> And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
> silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
> before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
> adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
> just add it to a global css)
>
> So far there are no eye-catcher css rules "This is a hint"/"This is a
> warning",... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
> be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
> applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
> manually adding <divs> with the corresponding ids/classes)

Yes sir - the theme is going to need changing for sure - that is on the
list as things to do...

Sorry before you waste any time responding to those next paragraphs,
it's OK I know they need thinking through regarding what ends up on
disc...

#22

Excellent - now go to bed, none of us are getting any younger...:slight_smile:

#23

Hi Drew, *

Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.

Of course it does...

Looks quite obvious now... seems I've overestimated my multitasking
capabilities yesterday... :wink:

[..]

I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
~32Megs would fail. [1]

Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.

(this is imposed by php's settings -
silverstripe itself doesn't really care.
But when you have huge files to add, please use the
ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
scp/rsync

OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.

Sending data by PM,

cheers
Erich

#24

I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of the emails.

Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer. All the dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list on the extensions.html file. That has all the dictionaries linked with their dates.
http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip

I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files from the web site server yet.

---------------------

As for

<quote>
@Tim I'm going to allow Friedrich to login to the libreoffice-na.us site
using my FTP credentials...
<unquote>

I have no problems with that. I thought that I had sent the information to Friedrich when I created that domain.

---------------------

Florian sent "us" an email:
Re: en_US dictionary with April 19 2011 .dic file, plus French updates possible as well

<quote>

Hello,

can someone follow-up on this, or did someone already do? It's a bit out
of my scope, I guess:-)

Florian

<unquote>

I do not seem to have the information for what to follow up "on".

I will send to Drew and Florian the four most up-to-date French dictionary file I have.

One is already online, but the other three slipped through the cracks of my memory and were not updated to the site after I found them.
             French--dictionnaire-fr-classique-reforme1990-v4.1____2011-03-27.oxt
             French--dictionnaire-fr-classique-v4.1____2011-03-27.oxt
             French--dictionnaire-fr-moderne-v4.1____2011-03-27.oxt
             French--dictionnaire-fr-reforme1990-v4.1____2011-03-27.oxt

verses the old 4.0 version dated 2010-08-01, like this one.
             French--dictionnaire-fr-classique-reforme1990-v4.0____2010-08-01.oxt

As for updating the dictionaries, as far as I can tell, all you need to do is replace the old .dic files with the updated ones. The .aff file is out of my area of ability but may not need replacing, yet. Those .aff file would need work to keep it up-to-date with the newest words for the list, but it still works well enough. Those files seem to help you find the

English info in the .aff file

This one looks like it helps to deal with the suffex
SFX B 0 ness [aeiou]y

This list looks like it is used to help find replacement words by taking letter combinations and replacing them with others. It think the word then would be searched with those new letter combination to see if it is in the list that way.
REP are air
REP are ear
REP are eir
REP air are
REP air ere
REP ere air
REP ere ear
REP ere eir
REP ear are
REP ear air
REP ear ere
REP eir are
REP eir ere

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#25

I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
the emails.

Sorry to hear and hope you are indeed feeling better.

Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer. All the
dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
on the extensions.html file. That has all the dictionaries linked with
their dates.
http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip

I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
from the web site server yet.

LOL - well, small problem there - I have 181 files in my latest pull
from the server, in May when the last .iso was created, and yesterday I
asked to have the files moved from the Libo-na.us server to the TDF cms
server - this morning I find 404 files in this dictionary directory.

I really thought we agreed on two items:
1 - nothing on the disc that is not referenced from the UI.
2 - no new files would go into the disc directory on server without all
of us knowing in advance.
[On the second point - I bear some responsibility here - seems I missed
an email from you on June 2nd, where you are talking about updating
files, so I'll take the hit on that one...]

- this is going to make for a long day it seems.

Moving forward today - I propose to move the files I have from May to
the 'parking lot' on Erich's server (he was nice enough to give me info
on that last night - thank you] and have those moved into the CMS
system. I'll then delete the new dictionary files and that should put us
back to a file load that matching what has been reviewed earlier.

Then - we can step back and look at those files on the na.us server and
see which ones really are updates. I ran diff on a few of them and found
no changes, BTW, beyond the file name - there where a few with changes
also, however.

Which rather leads into another, related, subject. The new
extension/template site - we have, thanks to Tim, a darn near full
collection of the dictionaries and templates from the OO.o extension
site...what do we do with them?

Thanks,

//drew

#26

@Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!

#27

The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never removed the older files.

3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

The web page was updated to the newest files, but not I did not remove the old ones. That helped for my archiving, since I made a mistake and deleted my archive folders for these versions. I want to keep as many of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline. But having them archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's archived section for older versions.

I think Florian will want the 3 missing 4.1 version French dictionaries on their server, so I sent them to you and those emails on that message "thread". I also found a few other .oxt dictionaries not listed on the OOo site. Those would be nice to include in the dictionary list.

The extensions.html file has all the dictionaries, as far as I remember, linked to the .oxt files that have their .dic dates included so the users can know who up-to-date those word lists are. It is nice when you find ones that have version numbers being updated, but, as far as I know, some have been updated in the past without any version number shown in the filename.

Also the info you asked about what we do with all these dictionaries, extensions, and templates, we/I have needing a place for sharing with other projects is important. There are so many extensions that have not been added to our NA list that I have in my offline archive[s]. These need to be placed on a LibreOffice server for everyone to be able to download and/or use in their own CMS page[s]. LO users should not have to go to flaky OOo pages to get these .oxt files.

If need be, I would create several extension pages for use on a LO server. It will not be one that you can search like OOo's site, but it could be organized in function groups. Dictionaries in one group, Writer aids in another. Special functions in a third, etc., etc.. We can decide how the extensions are grouped. Then you could either have one large page with "shortcut" anchors to skip down to the group you need, or make the groups different pages.

I have over 80[?] extensions with almost 200 dictionaries, if you do not count both the original and updates files. I know there are more .oxt extensions available, but I downloaded the ones that I might be interested in using. For the total number of extensions that are out there on the OOo site, and other places, I "feel" there may be 150 to 200 of them, with many not needed anymore or not working with the newer versions of OOo or LO.

So, there are a lot of things needed to be though about for dictionaries and other extensions. Templates are a different matter and I will not get into that discussion in this email thread.

#28

Hi Tim,

>> I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
>> the emails.
>>
>>
>> Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer. All the
>> dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
>> You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
>> on the extensions.html file. That has all the dictionaries linked with
>> their dates.
>> http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
>>
>> I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
>> from the web site server yet.
> @Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!
>
>
The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never
removed the older files.

3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

OK

<snip>

  I want to keep as many
of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline. But having them
archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know
someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's
archived section for older versions.

I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
are available for disc production purposes.

I think Florian will want the 3 missing 4.1 version French dictionaries
on their server, so I sent them to you and those emails on that message
"thread".

I can't speak for Florian but I he is not the real go to guy on this.

I also found a few other .oxt dictionaries not listed on the
OOo site. Those would be nice to include in the dictionary list.

Alright - well, would need to check the license on those files but
otherwise it sounds good - let's review them.

The extensions.html file has all the dictionaries, as far as I remember,
linked to the .oxt files that have their .dic dates included so the
users can know who up-to-date those word lists are. It is nice when you
find ones that have version numbers being updated, but, as far as I
know, some have been updated in the past without any version number
shown in the filename.

Also the info you asked about what we do with all these dictionaries,
extensions, and templates, we/I have needing a place for sharing with
other projects is important. There are so many extensions that have not
been added to our NA list that I have in my offline archive[s]. These
need to be placed on a LibreOffice server for everyone to be able to
download and/or use in their own CMS page[s]. LO users should not have
to go to flaky OOo pages to get these .oxt files.

I fully agree that it is high time to _stop_ referring LibreOffice users
to OpenOffice.org resources! Whether is documentation, wiki pages,
extensions, templates or user support.

As for using the libo-na.us server for distributing some extensions,
maybe - I'm not sure how that would work however and it would need to be
talked through. There is a definite problem facing LibreOffice users
with regards to what extensions TDF is willing to make available and I
would love to host a site that makes those TDF will not host available -
HOWEVER - I assume that will need to be unambiguously _not_ directly
associated with TDF. The LO-Portal name might work for that, but
libreOffice-na.us would likely be a big problem.

If need be, I would create several extension pages for use on a LO
server. It will not be one that you can search like OOo's site, but it
could be organized in function groups. Dictionaries in one group,
Writer aids in another. Special functions in a third, etc., etc.. We
can decide how the extensions are grouped. Then you could either have
one large page with "shortcut" anchors to skip down to the group you
need, or make the groups different pages.

Thanks for the offer - the LibO extension site is fully under
development already.
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-extensions

I'm sure folks there would be interested in your help.

hmm - actually I'm just assuming dictionaries will go on this site -
don't actually know - will need to ask the people making the decisions
about this service.

I have over 80[?] extensions with almost 200 dictionaries, if you do not
count both the original and updates files. I know there are more .oxt
extensions available, but I downloaded the ones that I might be
interested in using. For the total number of extensions that are out
there on the OOo site, and other places, I "feel" there may be 150 to
200 of them, with many not needed anymore or not working with the newer
versions of OOo or LO.

So, there are a lot of things needed to be though about for dictionaries
and other extensions.

Yup - agreed.

<snip>,

//drew

#29

Hi Tim,

I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
the emails.

Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer. All the
dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
on the extensions.html file. That has all the dictionaries linked with
their dates.
http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip

I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
from the web site server yet.

@Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!

The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never
removed the older files.

3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

OK

<snip>

   I want to keep as many
of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline. But having them
archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know
someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's
archived section for older versions.

I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
are available for disc production purposes.

I did not know if there was a way to link to them last month[?] when the person wanted to have a copy of the previous version of LO. If you do not know where it is, or you cannot find the place on the "official" site where it is, then you need to have access to these files somewhere. Right now I do not know where to link to for Windows 3.3.1 install files. Do you? It is not easy to find it, but I had them archived on my hosting account server, so I linked to those files asked about off the non-CMS NA site.

<snip>

#30

> Hi Tim,
>
>>>> I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
>>>> the emails.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer. All the
>>>> dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
>>>> You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
>>>> on the extensions.html file. That has all the dictionaries linked with
>>>> their dates.
>>>> http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
>>>>
>>>> I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
>>>> from the web site server yet.
>>> @Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!
>>>
>>>
>> The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never
>> removed the older files.
>>
>> 3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.
> OK
>
>
> <snip>
>
>> I want to keep as many
>> of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline. But having them
>> archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know
>> someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's
>> archived section for older versions.
> I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
> on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
> 3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
> are available for disc production purposes.
>
I did not know if there was a way to link to them last month[?] when the
person wanted to have a copy of the previous version of LO.

If you do
not know where it is, or you cannot find the place on the "official"
site where it is, then you need to have access to these files
somewhere. Right now I do not know where to link to for Windows 3.3.1
install files. Do you?

Well actually I do not, not off hand. It seems like I saw it mentioned
as being available someplace, in an email, of course I could be
mistaken. (often am)

It is not easy to find it, but I had them
archived on my hosting account server, so I linked to those files asked
about off the non-CMS NA site.

Excellent

//drew

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