* Present
+ Norbert, David, Joel, Andras, Stephan, Kendy, Eike, Michael S,
Astron, Petr, Lionel, Caolan, Thorsten, Michael M, Bjoern
* Completed Action Items
+ master / unordf bug-fix before pushing writer doc (Michael S)
+ tweak default assignee / mail alias to include 'un-assigned@' (Joel)
+ lovely visible 'Not Assigned's everywhere ...
+ poke docs team wrt. writing off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
+ thanks Sophie !
+ ping Marc wrt. creating a page with certified consultants in
alphabetical order with rates etc. (Joel)
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
+ notabug (Michael S)
+ on-line update tweaks (Kendy)
=> upgrade everything to 3.6.5
=> upgrade all 3.*.0 -> 4.0.0
+ done for two weeks
+ continue ns timestamp discussion & conclude (Stephan/Lionel/Thorsten)
+ best outcome is to break it completely incompatibly
+ some knock-on ODF / standardisation impact
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ timed out on this AI
* Pending Action Items
+ send out next round of certification invitations (Stephan/Bjoern/Thorsten)
+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
+ sent to Tollef - who is deadly busy just now.
** + Update gsoc ideas page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
+ everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
+ helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
+ [ pending ]
+ look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0.1 rc2 status
+ builds available, synching to mirrors
+ a slew of bugs included; please continue fixing.
+ 4.0.2 rc1 *next deadline*:
+ March 11th
+ 1 week + 1/2 from now.
+ 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 3 weeks out: Monday Mar 18
* UX input (Astron)
+ new icon for impress remote merged and pending 4.0.1 release
* final gnumake removal: status & thanks (Bjoern)
+ Some fantastic work here, we now build everthing in
one gnumake process
+ http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/one/
+ build dependency graphing in a post prj/ world (Stephan)
+ need a tool for dependency graphing
+ will we get new circular dependencies ?
+ no library linking will help and make will fail
on circular deps (Norbert)
+ what is needed is a tool to parse the output of
"make -n -p" - that dumps all the rules (Michael S)
+ not as obvious as build lists were (yet)
+ the build.lst's were rotting anyway (Stephan)
+ a lint tool for make -n -p would be nice (Michael S)
AI: + write the start of a that tool (Michael)
+ then remove the prj/build.lst and d.lst files.
+ parse only the linktarget pieces (Bjeorn)
* merging external changes (Michael)
+ tool in contrib/dev-tools/scripts/annotate.pl
+ all non-trivial patches require sign-off from relevant
developer preferably ESC member and testing
+ and another sign-off for back-porting to -4-0
* decision / dropping stale xmerge filters (Andras)
+ drop the minimally functional / not installed ones (Caolan)
+ ActiveSync 3.5 (for win95), pocket word,
minicalc, htmlsoff, wordsmith
+ written often as mini samples / proof of concept.
+ decision: drop the unused filters, but retain the xmerge
framework itself
* Coverity progress (Markus/Norbert/Caolan)
+ new build up-loaded, it'd be nice if more people would
register / help with the reports:
http://scan.coverity.com/user_register.html project: 'LibreOffice'
+ then send your account details to Markus / Norbert.
+ making good progress < 600 'high impact' reports left.
+ un-caught exception reports more or less useless, always
somewhere an exception is not declared.
* Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
+ still hurt by the toolchain bug on SLES11
+ http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15167
AI: + chase temporary PTF for the server (Kendy)
+ not publish until we're confident there are no false-positive
* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
+ sent out list to ESC of invitations, no objections now,
in one week - Cert. Program guys will async. certify
them all as approved.
* New features / improving communication (Joel)
+ How to identify new features quickly so QA can
tackle them (can devs put whiteboard status "NewFeature") ?
+ Enhancement bugs should be marked 'Resolved FIXED'
+ CC Dev's responsible on any bug reports
+ encourage 'works for me' comments in such bugs.
+ try to avoid impress remote / unity issues next time.
+ If a master bug is reported vs. a new feature in the first month
+ CC the dev responsible for the new feature.
+ If a feature is specific
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
fdo#61025 - Crash when adding a comment on a cell (Markus)
fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object (Michael)
fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing (Muthu)
fdo#37580 - Assign layout malfunction and crash on slide with formula (Thorsten)
AI: + can't reproduce in 4.1.x - can we get more details (Joel)
* QA update (Joel)
+ since 3.6.0 35% of our bugs were filed via the BSA (Joel)
+ under 150 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage.
http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o
+ QA will add signatures to triaging comments something like:
LibreOffice is powered by a team of volunteers, every
bug is confirmed (triaged) by human beings who mostly
give their time for free. We invite you to join our
triaging by checking out this link:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage and
join us on freenode at #libreoffice-qa
Also, good bug reports help tremendously in making the
process go smoother, please always provide
reproducible steps (even if it seems easy) and attach
any and all relevant
+ QA added a projects page:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA_Projects
+ add new pieces of interest for QA there.
* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
+ 2 (of 5) older 1/2 3/3
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 14 (of 99) older 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34
14% 16% 17% 18% 22% 22% 14% 22% 27% 32% 26%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 75 (of 211) older 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164
36% 36% 30% 25% 25% 25% 24% 22% 23%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 27 (of 72)
+ re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
** http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q - has the latest query for un-fixed bisected bugs
+ hopefully will help people find successful bisections faster
AI: + export a more helpful link for next minutes (Kendy)
+ the bibisect is really excessively useful
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 292(-3) bugs open of 1333(+32) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 100 (-4)
+ Presentation - 30 (-3)
+ Spreadsheet - 28 (-4)
+ LibreOffice - 30 (+5)
+ Crashes - 21 (-2)
+ Database - 22 (+1)
+ Drawing - 17 (+2)
+ Borders - 13 (+1)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1