Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Feb-03

Present: Heiko
Comments: Sascha, Mike, Regina, John, Seth, Telesto, Dieter, Eike


  * UI: Footnotes and endnote settings has no reset button
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139712
    + seems to be a global option and effective across sessions
    + could enhance workflow, but
    + first Bug 128469 (terminology of Reset/Standard) has to be solved
      for naming convention (Sascha)
    + don't see the benefit, Reset becomes "Set to Parent" and works only
      with hierarchically organized data; F&E is kind of global option and
      would fit tools > options > writer
    + if we add Reset it will behave as reset to factory settings and
      rather add confusion than making dialogs more consistent
    => comment

  * UI Footnote/endnote settings dialog caption
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139713
    + dialog has other label then menu entry, slash bad practice for
      titles (Sascha)
    + suggest naming dialog and menu entry to "Foot- and Endnotes..." (Sascha)
    + yes to "Footnotes and Endnotes Settings" but no to properties since
      this dialog works similar to tools > options (Heiko)
    => comment

  * "Links to External Files" is not precise
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139735
    + "External Links..." or "Links to External Data..." (Mike)
    + "External Links" bad naming, links itself aren't external (Sascha)
    + suggest "Externally Linked..." or "Linked Data and Files..." (Sascha)
    + +1 to "Links to External Data..." (too much
    + Calc: .uno:InsertExternalDataSource "Link to E~xternal Data..."
+ Draw/Impress: .uno:ManageLinks "Lin~ks to External Files..."
    + Writer: .uno:LinkDialog "Lin~ks to External Files..."
      + cui/uiconfig/ui/baselinksdialog.ui is titled "Edit Links"
    + streams are rather a corner case for Writer and DrawImpress
    + if "data" is read similar to "file" we should harmonize acc. Calc
    + documentation under https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/shared/01/02180000.html is outdated
    => comment

  * Paragraph/Character Style Dialog: "Reset" and "Standard"
    buttons have confusing labels
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469
    + suggest "Reset Tab" and "Reset to Parent" but probably to long
      labels (Sascha)
    + Reset -> Revert, Unapply, Undo, Clear, Undo Unsaved Changes, Undo Tab
      + keep Reset since it's used in different context
    + Standard -> Reset, Default, Parent, Original, Inherited,
      Reset Tab to Parent, Reset Tab, Re/Set to Parent
      + "Reset" for "Standard" adds confusion (Regina)
    + remove Reset
      + works nicely with Apply (John)
    + both apply to the current tab only (Apply works on all tabs)
    + ideally we have a true "Reset" button, which works as Undo for Apply, and
      a "Standard" that reverts everything to the default (pretty difficult for
      hierarchical content)
    => simplicity first, short terms, long and informative tooltips

  * The behavior of the border picker is sometimes off
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139838
    + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139094
    + keep makes no sense in many cases, e.g. edit single cell, column, row
    + consistent behavior would be: init off>on>off; init partial>on all>off
      all (Sascha)
    + bike-shedding to me, don't see the benefit of keep either but there is
      likely one (Heiko)
    => comment

  * UI - Find in Calc fails when a formula refers to a cell in
    another sheet's pivot table
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134724
    + expect quick find to search content instead of display values (Eike)
    + default search should be values (for Benjamin), option for formulas given
      (for Eve) (Sascha)
    + maybe rename "Values" into "Values and Results" (Sascha)
    + simply find both, Values/Results, Content and Notes (Heiko)
      + otherwise I vote for an option
    => comment