ESC meeting minutes: 2024-03-14

  • Present:

    • Regina, Xisco, Stephan, Michael W, Heiko, Caolan, Miklos, Olivier, Michael S, Cloph
  • Completed Action Items:

    • Dev certification: came up with an initial proposal for the current cycle (Miklos)
  • Pending Action Items:

  • Release Engineering update (Cloph)

    • 7.6: 7.6.6 RC2 next week
    • 24.2.2 RC2 next week
    • MAR update
      • enabled now for 24.0.0 → 24.1.1, seems to work
      • RC → final will be enabled; otherwise just final → next final
      • thanks a lot (Stephan)
      • does this mean end-users can already use this? (Xisco)
        • it’s experimental for 24.2, but yes (Cloph)
          • need to opt in via tools → options
        • on master, no longer experimental, but still need to opt in (Stephan)
          • for now, hardcoded to check once a week
  • Documentation (Olivier)

    • New Help
      • Fixes in Windows build (A. Timar)
        +Helpcontent2
      • Fixes and updates (Pierre F, Stragu)
    • Guides
      • Calc & Writer guides published
      • Updates of guides in translations weblate soon.
    • Bugzilla Documentation statistics
      274(274) bugs open
    • Updates:
      BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
      created 21(8) 48(9) 71(13) 228(2)
      commented 47(34) 105(24) 224(34) 909(25)
      resolved 8(5) 19(4) 30(5) 116(4)
    • top 10 contributors:
      Vernon, Stuart Foote made 36 changes in 1 month, and 81 changes in 1 year
      Olivier Hallot made 35 changes in 1 month, and 273 changes in 1 year
      Pierre F made 21 changes in 1 month, and 21 changes in 1 year
      Heiko Tietze made 21 changes in 1 month, and 104 changes in 1 year
      Stéphane Guillou made 20 changes in 1 month, and 279 changes in 1 year
      Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 15 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
      Dione Maddern made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
      UNKNOWN made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
      Mac made 7 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
      Bogdan B made 6 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
  • UX Update (Heiko)

    • Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
      247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    • Updates:
      BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
      added 6(1) 14(4) 15(4) 26(2)
      commented 63(6) 226(24) 466(-9) 2025(-2)
      removed 0(0) 0(0) 1(0) 14(-1)
      resolved 6(0) 29(1) 77(-2) 318(0)
    • top 10 contributors:
      Heiko Tietze made 108 changes in 1 month, and 1207 changes in 1 year
      Stéphane Guillou made 59 changes in 1 month, and 635 changes in 1 year
      Vernon, Stuart Foote made 51 changes in 1 month, and 265 changes in 1 year
      Ady made 34 changes in 1 month, and 152 changes in 1 year
      Ilmari Lauhakangas made 25 changes in 1 month, and 185 changes in 1 year
      Bob Harvey made 12 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
      Eyal Rozenberg made 12 changes in 1 month, and 146 changes in 1 year
      Rafael Lima made 11 changes in 1 month, and 77 changes in 1 year
      Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
      Nabet, Julien made 10 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
    • [Bug 160185] Would like a width control for Web view in Writer (like in Google
      Docs’ Pageless view)
    • [Bug 160194] Add all 3 Spotlight commands (Paragraph Style, Character Style,
      Direct Formatting) to Style Inspector
    • [Bug 159906] A11Y sidebar: Too many issue reports about direct character
      formatting
    • [Bug 160167] Bullets and Numbering dialog: Selection label
    • [Bug 160114] ZOOM factor: make it change in all Writer instances (in all
      writer windows)
    • [Bug 160125] Standard Palette - Dark Blue 1 (from COL_DEFAULT_SHAPE_STROKE) is
      lighter than Blue
    • [Bug 157981] personal / custom dictionaries should be easily portable
      → + [Bug 159794] inconsistency in backspacing through indents
      • Zero ‘before text’ indent first before removing paragraph break
      • inconsistency sounds suspicious (Michael S)
  • Crash Testing (Caolan)

  • Crash Reporting (Xisco)

    • 7.6.4.1 39396(+2417)
    • 7.6.5.2 2110(+1158)
    • 24.2.0.3 11049(+1376)
    • 24.2.1.2 2245(+1594)
  • Mentoring (Hossein)

    • Missing Hossein
      committer… 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
      open 64(-8) 136(-7) 138(-6) 138(-6)
      reviews 382(-44) 1550(12) 3766(56) 12054(-16)
      merged 255(-39) 1256(18) 3389(6) 12410(-72)
      abandoned 19(-4) 75(7) 179(7) 668(5)
      own commits 171(-29) 806(35) 2264(-29) 9375(-74)
      review commits 85(14) 358(37) 918(23) 3039(-11)
      contributor… 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
      open 29(-12) 69(-2) 71(-1) 71(-2)
      reviews 758(-130) 3148(26) 7964(-34) 29828(-268)
      merged 30(-2) 139(14) 358(-14) 1903(-49)
      abandoned 3(-42) 210(-9) 302(-4) 694(-5)
      own commits 47(10) 187(32) 415(31) 1069(16)
      review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
      • easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 326(326)
        total 409(409) assigned 26(26) open 349(349)
      • top 10 contributors:
        Kurt Nordback made 18 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
        Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 18 patches in 1 month, and 41 patches in 1 year
        Pierre F made 16 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
        Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 12 patches in 1 month, and 85 patches in 1 year
        Stéphane Guillou made 10 patches in 1 month, and 62 patches in 1 year
        Dione Maddern made 8 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
        Ahmed Hamed made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
        Luv Sharma made 5 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
        Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
        Devansh Varshney made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
      • top 10 reviewers:
        Vajna, Miklos made 170 review comments in 1 month, and 1068 in 1 year
        Caolán McNamara made 160 review comments in 1 month, and 1274 in 1 year
        Grandin, Noel made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 652 in 1 year
        Ilmari Lauhakangas made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 494 in 1 year
        Michael Stahl made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 984 in 1 year
        Thorsten Behrens made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 640 in 1 year
        Nabet, Julien made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 934 in 1 year
        Hossein made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 474 in 1 year
        Christian Lohmaier made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 346 in 1 year
      • Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#158108: Update to ICU 74.1 ( Taichi Haradaguchi )
        - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158749
        Enable uno API calls to affect updating links ( Håkon Hægland )
        - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/161628
      • big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
        Adlair Cerecedo-Mendez
        Hassan Sajjad
        Jonah Janzen
        Teodora Balaj
  • Outreachy (Ilmari)

  • GSoC (Ilmari)

  • Commit Access

  • Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)

    • resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
    • have an initial proposal from Miklos + feedback from Stephan, needs more time
  • Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
    gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 165 ok: 151 ko: 11 fail ratio: 6.67% mean_ok: 9 ( 11) median_ok: 7 ( 8)
    gerrit_android_arm jobs: 164 ok: 158 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.05% mean_ok: 10 ( 11) median_ok: 8 ( 8)
    gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 165 ok: 150 ko: 12 fail ratio: 7.27% mean_ok: 9 ( 11) median_ok: 8 ( 8)
    gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 164 ok: 159 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.44% mean_ok: 10 ( 11) median_ok: 8 ( 8)
    gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 336 ok: 243 ko: 85 fail ratio: 25.30% mean_ok: 37 ( 38) median_ok: 35 ( 36)
    gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 385 ok: 314 ko: 56 fail ratio: 14.55% mean_ok: 17 ( 18) median_ok: 14 ( 15)
    gerrit_mac jobs: 332 ok: 293 ko: 27 fail ratio: 8.13% mean_ok: 51 ( 51) median_ok: 48 ( 48)
    gerrit_windows jobs: 347 ok: 278 ko: 43 fail ratio: 12.39% mean_ok: 60 ( 96) median_ok: 55 ( 74)
    gerrit_master_ml jobs: 402 ok: 222 ko: 141 fail ratio: 35.07% mean_ok: 112 (113) median_ok: 98 ( 99)
    gerrit_master jobs: 52 ok: 27 ko: 18 fail ratio: 34.62% mean_ok: 102 (102) median_ok: 92 ( 92)
    gerrit_master_seq jobs: 350 ok: 195 ko: 123 fail ratio: 35.14% mean_ok: 113 (113) median_ok: 98 ( 98)

    • https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240314.html
    • tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2 gerrit_windows
      3 UITest_writer_tests2 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport5 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      5 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport21 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      7 CppunitTest_sw_a11y gerrit_windows
      7 JunitTest_sw_complex gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      9 UITest_writer_tests8 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    • this week was good, nothing stands out (Cloph)
      • some “application failed to launch dialogs” problems, on Windows
      • bot is taken offline automatically, but then this reduces the build bandwidth
  • What’s cooking (Miklos)

    • A11y update (Michael W)
      • gtk4: implement initial support for text attributes
      • Accerciser: Improvements for Gtk 4 apps merged upstream, plan to look into Wayland support
      • pending Gerrit change to port Java a11y test to C++:
        https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/164231
    • 3D shapes, extruded shapes (Regina)
      • currently looking at importing the material properties
      • would like to talk some 3D expert :slight_smile:
        • Armin could be a candidate
  • COOL Days 2024 (Miklos)

  • QA update (Xisco)

    • UNCONFIRMED: 1124 (-9)

      • enhancements: 280 (-1)
      • needsUXEval: 9 (+1)
      • haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
      • needsDevAdvice: 46 (+1)
      • documentation: 6 (-2)
      • android: 0 (+0)
      • iOS: 0 (+0)
      • Online: 9 (+0)
    • Most pressing bugs:
      New:

    None

    Old:
       + Selection invisible in a11y High Contrast modes with SKIA/Raster, Skia/Vulkan unaffected
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160036
           + bisected to Noel. Skia Upgrade (m116)
             + maybe a further upgrade would help
             + in theory could bisect skia as well (Caolan)
    Fixed:
       + CRASH: using ALT+RETURN twice
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160095
           + Fixed. thanks to Julien
    
  • Copyright year in the about dialog (Xisco)

AI: file easy hack to move the year out of the about dialog l10n strings (Xisco)

  • backport or not? (Xisco)
    • can take care of this to not break l10n strings (Cloph)
    • see value in picking it to living branches (Caolan)
      • if people want to do it, it’s logical
        => go ahead with backporting, linking the minutes in the gerrit change (all)
        AI: Cloph to comment on the gerrit change to inform Martin (Cloph)
  • QA stats (Stéphane)

  • Bisected bugs open: keyword ‘bisected’

    done by:
       Stéphane Guillou       5
       Raal                   2
       Xisco Fauli            2
    
  • Bibisected bugs open: keyword ‘bibisected’

    done by:
       Stéphane Guillou       5
       Raal                   2
       Xisco Fauli            2
    
  • all bugs tagged with ‘regression’

    • 1245(-6) bugs open of 13246(+10) total 20(+0) high prio.

      done by:
      Xisco Fauli 2
      Ady 1
      Raal 1
      Robert Großkopf 1
      Stéphane Guillou 1
      Vernon, Stuart Foote 1

  • ~Component count net * high severity regressions

    • Bug List
      Writer - 14(+1)
      LibreOffice - 2(+0)
      Calc - 1(+0)
      Impress - 1(+0)
      UI - 1(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 0(-1)

    by OS:
    All - 14(+0)
    Linux - 5(+0)
    Mac OS X - 0(+0)
    Windows - 1(+0)

  • ~Component count net * all regressions

    • Bug List
      Writer: other - 443(-3)
      Calc - 225(+2)
      Impress - 127(-1)
      LibreOffice - 55(+1)
      Draw - 52(+1)
      Crashes - 46(+0)
      Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
      Base - 39(+0)
      UI - 37(+1)
      Borders - 36(+0)
      Writer: perf - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 25(-2)
      Chart - 24(+0)
      RTL - 23(+0)
      filters and storage - 22(-1)
      BASIC - 19(-1)
      Writer: doc filter - 16(+0)
      graphics stack - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor - 7(+0)
      framework - 3(+0)
      Extensions - 2(+0)
      sdk - 2(+0)
      Linguistic - 1(+0)