Acceptance of MC role - Cor Nouws

I, Cor Nouws, elected member of the Membership Committee of The Document Foundation, hereby accept this position within the Stiftung bürgerlichen Rechts. My term will start September 19, 2024.

Signed: Cor Nouws

Ich, Cor Nouws, gewähltes Mitglied des Mitglieder-Komitees der The Document Foundation, nehme mein Amt innerhalb der Stiftung bürgerlichen Rechts an. Meine Amtszeit beginnt am 19. September 2024.

Unterzeichnet: Cor Nouws

In my opinion, smart and reasonable people who have contributed to The Document Foundation’s recent and ongoing difficulties would facilitate a healing phase by withdrawing rather than burdening the process by their renewed presence. And in my experience, people who are part of the cause of the problems are rarely suitable to be part of the solution.

DE:
Meiner Meinung nach würden kluge und vernünftige Menschen, die zu den jüngsten und anhaltenden Schwierigkeiten von The Document Foundation beigetragen haben, eine Heilungsphase erleichtern, indem sie sich zurückziehen, anstatt den Prozess durch ihre erneute Präsenz zu belasten. Und nach meiner Erfahrung sind Menschen, die mit die Ursache der Probleme sind, selten geeignet, Teil der Lösung zu sein.

FR:
À mon avis, les personnes intelligentes et raisonnables qui ont contribué aux difficultés récentes et persistantes de The Document Foundation faciliteraient une phase de guérison en se retirant plutôt qu’en alourdissant le processus par leur présence renouvelée. Et d’après mon expérience, les personnes qui sont en partie à l’origine des problèmes sont rarement aptes à faire partie de la solution.

PT-BR
Em minha opinião, as pessoas inteligentes e sensatas que contribuíram para as dificuldades recentes e contínuas da The Document Foundation facilitariam um período de cura se se afastassem em vez de sobrecarregar o processo com sua presença renovada. E, em minha experiência, as pessoas que fazem parte da causa dos problemas raramente estão aptas a fazer parte da solução.

ES:
En mi opinión, las personas inteligentes y razonables que han contribuido a las dificultades recientes y actuales de The Document Foundation facilitarían un periodo de curación dando un paso atrás en lugar de sobrecargar el proceso con su renovada presencia. Y, según mi experiencia, las personas que son parte de la causa de los problemas rara vez son aptas para formar parte de la solución.

IT:
A mio parere, le persone intelligenti e ragionevoli che hanno contribuito alle recenti e continue difficoltà della The Document Foundation faciliterebbero un periodo di guarigione facendo un passo indietro piuttosto che appesantire il processo con la loro nuova presenza. Per mia esperienza, le persone che sono parte della causa dei problemi raramente sono adatte a far parte della soluzione.

JA:
私の意見では、ドキュメント財団の最近の、そして現在進行形の困難に貢献してきた賢明で理性的な人々は、その新たな存在によってプロセスに負担をかけるよりも、むしろ身を引くことによって、癒しの期間を促進するだろう。そして私の経験では、問題の原因の一端を担っている人々が、解決策の一端を担うのに適していることはほとんどない。

So the voters are wrong. They only get it right when it is in one’s interest.

Fully informed voters are never wrong.

What does it mean to be ‘fully informed’? As voters, we have the level of information we want to have, it is our responsibility. Am I wrong, or did everyone have the possibility to ask what they wanted?

In my opinion, smart and reasonable people who have contributed to The
Document Foundation’s recent and ongoing difficulties would facilitate a
healing phase by withdrawing rather than burdening the process by their
renewed presence.

I was surprised to see this. To confirm you are the Stephan who is a
paid staff member of TDF, and has privileged access to board meetings ?

Are you using this position to assign blame to an individual elected MC
member - in a way that can’t be verified by others in the community ? -
an argument by authority as it were.

And, only after the election, and after them being fairly elected, you
ask them to stand down, by implying they are not “smart and reasonable” ?

Is that what you’re saying ? (and in several languages) ? its not
entirely clear.

Are you asking this in your capacity as a staff member ? or under
direction of some private TDF board discussion ? or on your own
initiative as a normal community member ?

Do you really write in seven languages ?

And in my experience, people who are part of the cause
of the problems are rarely suitable to be part of the solution.

The question I suspect on everyone’s mind is very much this:

who is part of the cause ?

I would expect there are legitimate and significant differences of
opinion on this as other things; and we should have respect for other
people and winsomely persuade them of our points.

Regards,

Michael.

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Hi Michael,

I am all in.

What do you think about us talking about this directly on the phone first?

You know that I hold you in high regard and I would like to avoid any misunderstandings that could jeopardise our, from my view, mutual respectful relationship, which I have experienced in various enriching conversations with you.

Thank you,
Stephan

What do you think about us talking about this directly on the phone first?

As perhaps you can guess, I appreciate your annual outreach at LibOCon, to discuss the sadly growing backlog of issues that need resolving around TDF. In general it is good to show leadership by actively trying to solve problems rather than letting them fester.

In the current information vacuum, it would be nice for everyone to know who you speak for- TDF, the board, the staff, just yourself, or some mix. Public answers appreciated; if you desperately want to talk first please just call me but I think it is worth clarify the content, intention, hats being worn here - hence my questions.

Coming back to the issue - I imagine one problem here is that the list of people who are part of the cause is very different between us. I would see an attempt to disenfranchise one side of that debate as a continuation of a rather fundamental cause.

Thanks !

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